May 172007
 

It has been presumed by the critics of ID that religious beliefs like Christianity are sustained primarily through socializing mechanisms.

Perhaps they believe that through alternative socializing mechanisms religion can be destroyed. Consider the petttion Dawkins signed to label Christianity as child abuse.

However, there is reason to think such anti-religion measures would not succeed because some people’s religion was not originated from socializing mechanisms.

Consider the near death experience and conversion of George Foreman. He was an impoverished teenage criminal that eventually reformed into the multi-millionaire minister of the Gospel he is today [reportedly signed a 137 million contract among other mutli-million dollar contracts].

See the abbreviated version of Foreman’s story: George Foreman beyond.. part4

Foreman is an example of what “the God Delusion” can do for someone’s life. “The God Delusion” can reform a formerly impoverished criminal and make him an upstanding and wealthy member of society.

From an operational perspective, it seems counter productive to industry to suppress certain forms of “the God delusion”.

In contrast, societies predicated on destroying the God delusion have been abysmal failures (can we say Stalin and Mao and Hitler). Darwinism is only useful for puppy beaters, and Foreman’s life is an example of what Darwinism cannot do for us.

PS
For interested readers, I strongly encourage watching the entire story:

George Foreman beyond…part1

George Foreman beyond…part2

George Foreman beyond…part3

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scordova
13 years ago

The point was:

1. this is great story about George Foreman. It ought to put tears in some people’s eyes.

2. even if the “God Delusion” is the expalnation of belief in God, Dawkins is still wrong that it is the cause of all sorts of evil. Look at what this supposed delusion did to Mother Teresa and George Foreman. Belief in God can do more for humanity than the Darwin Delusion.

The Pixie
The Pixie
13 years ago

Foreman is an example of what “the God Delusion” can do for someone’s life. “The God Delusion” can reform a formerly impoverished criminal and make him an upstanding and wealthy member of society.

I am not entirely sure you are serious, but assuming you are…

So by exploiting the God delusion that so many people have, this guy has become a multi-millionaire. Another triumph for capitalism. Hurray! Oh, wait, you were arguing for Christianity? You think this man is a good advert for Chistianity?

Was Jesus a “wealthy member of society”? Or did he implore his followers to forsake their money? Did the apostles try to accumulate great wealth, like this guy, or did they live frugal lives, giving money to the needy?

Matthew 21: 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. 23T hen Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Luke 16: 13 “No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”

It is strange that Christianity is so very different today; now the accumulation of wealth is seen as a sign of being a great Christian.